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Episode 9
FP&A Trained You to Model. Nobody Trained You to Plan
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In this episode of Making Cents with Charlie, host Charlie Liu sits down with Paul Barnhurst, founder of The FP&A Guy and host of three finance podcasts including FP&A Unlocked. Paul has spent 12+ years inside finance teams and has interviewed hundreds of FP&A professionals about what actually makes them effective. The conversation covers the real difference between building a model and building a plan, why your assumptions matter more than your math, how AI is changing what finance leaders need to bring to the table, and what skills matter most for the next generation of FP&A professionals. Paul also shares his take on why servant leadership is not just good ethics but good business.
Jun 3, 2026

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